Leaks on the ceiling, formed after flooding with water from the upper floor or a leaky roof, unfortunately, are not uncommon. The ceiling immediately loses its aesthetic appearance and requires repair. Before proceeding with the repair, it is imperative to eliminate the cause of water leaks, otherwise it will only be that the repairs made may be in vain, and another rain may bring all the work to nothing.
I, too, was not spared the fate of doing repairs to eliminate smudges on the ceiling by the window as a result of a roof leak. Finally, the roof was repaired, and it was possible to do repairs. This is what the ceiling looked like before the renovation.
First you need to use a narrow metal spatula with a blade width of 4-5 cm to remove damaged paint or whitewash to the plaster. Before work, the working edge of the spatula must be sharpened like a knife blade, with a bar or sandpaper. Then it will be easier to work. The steel plate of the spatula should be thin and elastic, bending during operation, as in the photo.
If the plaster moves in places, then it must also be removed. There is a simple repair rule: everything that does not adhere well to the wall during its repair must be removed. If there are cracks on the surface to be repaired, but the plaster holds firmly, then they must be embroidered, that is, along the crack line, make a rectangular groove with a depth of at least 5 mm. If the crack is simply rubbed and painted over, then after a while it will appear in the same place again.
Since, after removing the whitewash, the plaster had to be removed in some places, it was decided to first apply a layer of Rothband. This is an excellent leveling mortar, which is recommended to be applied in a layer with a thickness of 5 to 10 mm, it adheres well to the surface of the ceiling, is moisture resistant, and is suitable for leveling walls even in bathrooms. Although the recommended application layer is indicated by the manufacturer from 5 mm, as my experience has shown, Rotband fits perfectly and holds firmly even when applied 1 mm thick. There were also traces of rust in several places on the wall. There was no copper sulphate and other chemicals at hand, so I hoped that with the help of Rotband it would be possible not only to level the walls and ceiling, but also to get rid of rust spots.
But the expectations were not justified, and in several places after the hardening of the Rotband, traces of rust spots appeared. While the Rothband was liquid, the rust passed through the water into its layer.
The question arose again, how to get rid of rust stains. I came to the conclusion that if you cover the places where rust enters with a waterproof film, then the surface of the wall can be puttied with water putty without fear of rust stains penetrating into it.
PF paint and some epoxy were available. I decided to use epoxy resin, because after a couple of hours after application it hardens and repairs can be continued.
It is difficult to apply epoxy to Rothband, as it is very thick. But if a little acetone is added to the epoxy resin after mixing the components and mixed, then it becomes quite fluid and well absorbed by porous materials. It remains only to paint over rusty spots with a brush. If you dilute any paint or varnish of the NTs or PF type with an appropriate solvent to a liquid consistency, then they are also suitable for isolating rusty spots, but it will be possible to continue the repair only a day after the applied coating has completely dried.
After coating the rust spots with epoxy, they showed up even more, but now they have become reliably covered with a waterproof film. After the epoxy has hardened, you can proceed to the finishing putty of these places without fear of the reappearance of rust spots.
While the epoxy was curing, the obvious bumps and protrusions of the rotband on the surface of the walls and ceiling were removed with sandpaper.
When performing repair work on local areas of the ceiling, when removing a layer of paint, when performing grinding, to prevent the spread of dirt and dust throughout the room, I substitute a tray (a plastic cover from an old record player). True, it’s not so convenient to work, but almost all the dirt remains in the tray.
If you wish, you can not buy a new one, but make your own cornice to your liking, as described in the site article
Yellow spots on the ceiling after flooding cause unpleasant aesthetic discomfort. This phenomenon is not frequent, but it happens. What can ruin the ceiling? Why might they appear? What needs to be done to return the ceiling to its previous appearance?
As you can see, there are many reasons, but the result is the same - spots have appeared and they must be eliminated.
There are many tricks to get rid of stains on the ceiling. You just need to determine the cause of their appearance and choose the best way to get rid of them.
Suitable for mild stains with yellowness, resulting from the leakage of moisture from the neighbors from above. What needs to be done for this?
To protect yourself from injury during work, be sure to turn off the electricity, wear gloves and a dust mask.
A good, dirt-removable effect is given by ordinary hydrochloric acid heated to 40 degrees in a 3 percent solution.
They appear as a result of yellow staining of moisture due to leakage of rusted and burst pipes in the ceilings between floors. The process to be eliminated will require the following materials to be prepared:
Take 250 g of copper sulfate. Rub a bar of soap on a fine grater. Pour 40 g of drying oil into the prepared dishes, place bone glue, add vitriol and soap chips. Mix everything thoroughly. The tool is ready for use.
It is important to create a strong film that will prevent the appearance of a rust stain. Otherwise, very soon you will see him again in the same place.
You will need:
To prepare a fat-dissolving agent, take any liquid with the property of neutralizing fat, ammonia and water in proportions: one teaspoon of the agent and ammonia per 100 grams of water. Everything is mixed. The second way is a mixture of kerosene and ordinary soapy warm water.
Yellow blots can appear not only on a painted or whitewashed ceiling.
If the contaminated area is not washed, you can try a 3 percent solution of soda ash. It is applied to the stained area, allowed to dry and washed off with water. Repeat the procedure until the desired result.
GCR can not only be damaged by moisture, but also severely deformed. Therefore, if the affected surface is large, you will have to replace this sheet with a new one.
Do not rack your brains if the trouble with flooding was drawn on the PVC ceiling panel. Just wipe the stained area with a damp cloth.
Flooding from above most often does not pass without a trace, and, at least, on the ceiling below the located apartment, depending on the finishing material, color stains or damage remain. Consider how to remove yellow spots on the ceiling after flooding - these are the minimal consequences when the leak did not lead to a more serious amount of repair work.
This type of execution and finishing material is widespread, and successful cleaning of the ceiling from stains after a leak in this case is a rather time-consuming operation.
Yellow spots on the whitewashed ceiling after flooding are eliminated in several ways, but always only after the causes of the leak have been eliminated. As a rule, a combination of several operations is used, since stains can also be accompanied by other damage caused by flooding.
If a leak on the floor above caused a layer of putty or plaster to peel off, then these layers must be removed. The bubble of the shell is pierced with a hammer, and then the base is cleaned of the exfoliated finish with a spatula. If color stains have spread to an undamaged finish, then they are removed in an acceptable way - surface streaks on the putty are scraped off, deep impregnation is cut down to a layer of plaster. After cleaning, the substrates are allowed to dry.
If there are areas on the floor with bare steel reinforcement or traces of rust from its close location, then it is necessary to isolate the steel from the materials of the upcoming finish. First of all, concrete with traces of rust is tapped with the sharp end of a hammer to reveal fragments of closely spaced reinforcement that has lost its grip on the concrete of the slab.
The visible areas of steel are then cleaned with a stiff steel brush or coarse sandpaper, and then covered with two coats of paint (ideally with a rust converter), being careful not to paint over the concrete around them. Thus, the reinforcement is protected from contact with residual moisture in the slab and corrosion, which otherwise will come through the putty layer within a day or two after its application, since the leveling mixture contains various technological additives that oxidize iron.
Important! It is impossible to cut out the reinforcement exposed in the slab - it is an integral element of the reinforcing mesh and even in this form continues to perform part of its functions.
After the protective layer of paint on the reinforcement has dried, the defective areas of the surface are primed with an aqueous solution of latex in a ratio of 1: 3 or another ready-made composition suitable for this purpose.
If at the beginning of the operation, after removing the exfoliated finish, open reinforcement is not found, then the repaired fragment of the surface after drying is only primed. This is done in order to stick the dust to the base and increase the adhesion of the leveling mixture, which will be applied to it after the primer dries.
Moisture-resistant cement-based leveling compounds, including tile adhesive, are well suited for sealing potholes in the ceiling. The composition prepared according to the instructions on the package is applied in layers - each next layer is laid after the previous one has cured, but before it dries, it should be noted that the last laying should not be flush, as it will still be finished with gypsum-based putty.
Finishing leveling, depending on the qualifications of the performer, is carried out in one or two layers on top of the hardened cement composition. Grinding of the repaired area is carried out after the final drying of the gypsum putty and the layers under it - this will be evidenced by the uniform pure white color of the surface.
Before painting the area, it must be primed. It should be borne in mind that a freshly painted surface will differ from the rest of the area in greater color intensity, even if the ceiling is white - there is dust on the old emulsion, the directions of movements of the brush, roller or spray gun will be different, etc. Therefore, if the goal is to remove yellow spots on the ceiling without a trace, then you will have to paint the entire surface of the base, and, depending on the quality of the emulsion, in 2-3 layers.
When the flooding in the apartment on the floor above was quickly eliminated, or the waterproofing of the floor there was done with sufficient quality, the consequences of water leakage through the interfloor ceiling can only appear in the form of brown stains on the ceiling - there may not be damage to the plaster and putty.
When choosing a method, as in this case, one should proceed from the fact that it will not be possible to get rid of yellow spots without a trace only by washing - they will have to be removed by a set of measures.
The yellow spots that remain on the ceiling after flooding have many components, for which there is no universal remedy for neutralizing. It is absurd to do a chemical analysis of these colored stains to successfully remove them, so stains on the ceiling after the flood can be temporarily made as invisible as possible, and then removed completely. To remove such stains, if there is no time to remove them in a more efficient mechanical way, it is necessary in stages.
Cleaning the ceiling of this dirt begins with removing the damaged emulsion layer with a spatula - this is easy to do while the ceiling is damp and the paint is removed in whole strips. If the paint is left, and all subsequent operations are carried out on top of it, then it will peel off anyway, and the texture of the repaired area will be ugly.
Then, after the ceiling has completely dried, the surface is degreased with a nitro solvent, for example, brand "646" or "647", which will remove possible contamination from the base with oils that have got there with water leakage.
Degreasing in the future will allow you to clean stains from the ceiling not only superficially, but also in the thickness of the leveling layers. The operation is carried out with a soft rag made of natural fabric, sufficiently abundantly moistened with a substance - colored stains are wiped over the entire area.
After degreasing is done, we get rid of the coloring pigment spots. This is done using any household detergent containing chlorine - bleaches "Belizna", "AS", "Domestos", chlorine-containing compounds "Dichlor" and "Chlorin". The presence of chlorine in the preparation is indicated by marking Cl on the package.
These or identical products will reduce the brightness of yellow spots on the ceiling, discoloring them to some depth. To do this, protect the floor under the stain with a sheet of cellophane, put on goggles and pour the solution into the bath. Having moistened a piece of foam rubber in a chlorine-containing agent, the sponge is briefly applied to the dirty area to soak it with bleach. Prolonged impregnation can lead to delamination of the putty layer, which will then have to be removed, so the condition of the impregnated area should be monitored.
Periodically, the swab is squeezed out and washed in a bowl. When a significant loss of color is visually noticeable on the contaminated surface with the cessation of progress, the procedure is stopped, and the ceiling is given another hour of time for the soaked bleach chlorine to complete the reaction with the pigments.
Important! When working with bleaches and solvents, in order to avoid chemical burns, it is necessary to use personal protective equipment (goggles, a mask), and ventilate the room.
After an hour, washing the ceilings is continued, but using ordinary detergents - washing powder, laundry soap, etc. The purpose of this stage of the procedure is to remove contaminants of a different origin from the surface, as well as chlorine bleach by wiping with a clean rag with applied detergent.
The work is completed by cleaning the base with a piece of foam rubber wetted in clean water until the remnants of detergents are removed from the surface.
The final result will be visible after the ceiling dries - after 1-2 days. One should not expect a 100% result and continue to wash the ceiling after drying, since it is impossible to remove yellow spots in this way without a trace. But pollution after such treatment will become much less noticeable, especially after masking the washed area with a layer of emulsion of a selected color, and a more thorough cosmetic repair can be postponed until better times.
In addition, when painting ceilings treated in this way, surprises in the form of endlessly appearing dirty-red stains are excluded - after one coating of the surface with a primer, the number of emulsion layers required for finishing will be minimal.
There is a moisture-resistant variety of drywall sheets - GKLV, which is used to level the bases in rooms with high humidity. But even this material is not designed for prolonged direct contact with water, since gypsum is hygroscopic.
There is no specific answer to the question of how to wash the plasterboard ceiling when flooded from above. If GKLV was treated with a hydrophobic composition before installation, the duration of contact with water was short, and the GKLV finish did not have time to deform, then how to wash the ceiling depends on the finishing material over drywall.
The emulsion will have to be carefully removed with a spatula while it is still wet, being careful not to damage the reinforcing shell of the GKL. Then the finish is allowed to dry, after which it is primed with an aqueous solution of latex and, again after it has dried, a layer of finishing gypsum putty is applied. The finish is sanded, primed again and emulsified in the selected color. If you paint only the repaired area, then it will stand out against the general background in any case.
If wallpaper was glued on top of the ceiling, including plasterboard, then they, as a rule, peel off from the wet base and also become covered with dirty yellow spots. It will not be possible to wash such wallpapers to their original state, but if the GKL base was saved or repaired, you can glue them in place, and then paint the ceiling completely. Spot repair of wallpaper (replacement of a strip or section) will be visually noticeable, even if the material is from the same batch.
The situation with spots on the drywall itself is not relevant - GKL is almost never used without decorative finishes, therefore, after flooding, it is not the appearance of spots that is important, but the preservation of strength characteristics and geometry by sheets. If the section from the GKL has become unusable, you can replace both the entire sheet and its fragment if it is small in area.
The replacement of a fragment begins with cutting out the defective area and attaching bars or pieces of a cd-profile to the base for mounting a new fragment on them - the same in configuration and thickness.
The GKL insert is cut out in such a way that after installation in place there are gaps of 3-5 mm around the perimeter. After attaching the insert to the base, the joints are aligned flush with the ceiling - the edge is wedged with wedges in the opening, leveled in height along the perimeter. Then the joints are filled with a special mixture for plasterboard joints.
A day later, after the composition has cured, the wedges are removed, and the nests remaining after them are also filled with putty. Then the joints are glued with a sickle tape and a finishing layer of gypsum putty is applied.
PVC tile is a waterproof material, and flooding does not change its characteristics, but yellow spots remain on it after leakage from above. It will not work to wash the tile to its original state - pollution also penetrates into the structure of the material due to its low density. But the way to get rid of the consequences of flooding is not technically difficult to perform.
With a piece of foam rubber soaked in water with detergent, dirt is washed off the finish as much as possible (chlorine-containing compounds can also be used). Then the tiles are primed with a latex-based composition to form a film over the remaining contamination and, after the primer has dried, painted with emulsion paint in any color you like.
Water leakage does not pass without a trace even for stretch ceilings - yellow spots can appear even after a long time after a slight flood, which went unnoticed under the fabric. The way to eliminate them depends on the material of manufacture of the stretch ceiling and the nature of the pollution.
If the ceiling is elastic synthetics, film, and the cause of yellow or other color spots is moisture, then the easiest way is to use one of the special products for cleaning stretch ceilings (solution, spray, gel).
The method of use is stated on the packaging of the composition, and the effectiveness of the operation depends on the quality of the product and the conscientiousness of the cleaning.
In the absence of such a means, improvised materials are used.
For example, a swab is made of cotton and gauze, which, after wetting in a ten percent solution of ammonia, wipe the stains, going beyond their borders by 10-15 cm. If after such cleaning the area differs from the main background in color, then it is necessary to wash the entire ceiling using ordinary detergents to remove dust and dirt from them.
Leak spots on the film stretch ceiling can also be removed with soda ash - a five percent aqueous solution is applied to the stains and, after drying, washed off with warm clean water.
Due to the smooth surface structure, removing stains from an elastic stretch ceiling is easier than from a textile or fabric one. You can use most household detergents (soaps, gels, powders, pastes), with the exception of aggressive acids, alkalis and solvents.
If the material of the stretch ceiling is textiles, then the same means are used, but the process will require more time and effort. However, cleaning even a fabric stretch ceiling will be ensured if the cause of contamination is water - we wipe and wash textiles to the desired result, using only tampons with a soft fleecy surface and delicate detergents.
In case of more serious contamination, in order to avoid damage to the material, it is better to turn to professionals.
It is impossible to avoid the problems associated with the removal of yellow stains from leaks, but you can minimize the consequences of flooding by performing internal waterproofing of the ceilings. If the problem nevertheless arose, it can be solved, moreover, on our own and with a guarantee of success.
The main gist of the article:
Suddenly out of order plumbing delivers a lot of trouble not only to the owners of apartments with an emergency, but also to their neighbors. The appearance of smudges on the ceiling as a result of exposure to moisture significantly spoils the appearance of the room, turning a smooth, snow-white ceiling into an unaesthetic surface with red stains. What to do in this case and how to avoid it in the future? How to remove yellow spots on the ceiling after flooding? To do this, you should initially find out the cause of the appearance of such a defect and eliminate it in the root.
To a greater extent, residents of multi-storey buildings face this problem, and various factors can be the cause of the appearance. Therefore, before proceeding with the process of removing unpleasant red stains, it is necessary to find out for what reason they formed on the ceiling:
It may not sound surprising, but removing yellow spots on the ceiling after flooding is much easier than solving the first 2 problems. The work will be less capital and costly in terms of money.
Getting rid of the yellow streaks on the ceiling that appeared as a result of one of the listed factors is not an easy task. To resolve this issue, you should thoroughly prepare, and be patient. If you do not want to waste your time, then the easiest solution is to hire a specialist. For a fee, your ceiling will regain its white smooth surface. But if you are a purposeful person and difficulties do not frighten you, there are ways by which you can restore the sparkling clean surface of the ceiling yourself.
The choice of method for cleaning the ceiling surface depends directly on the material from which it is made. Based on this, it will not be possible to simply putty and tint the contaminated area, subsequently the stain will reappear after a while.
In our article, we will describe in detail how to remove yellow spots from the ceiling after flooding from the most common types of surface finishes, namely:
Before proceeding with the restoration of the ceiling, make sure that all the necessary tools are at hand. How to remove yellow spots on the ceiling after a leak? - To carry out the work you will need the following devices:
Most often, as a result of flooding, wet rusty marks do not appear over the entire surface, but only some areas are damaged. These can be the joints between the ceiling, the place where the electrical wiring is output, the radiators.
Plaster ceilings are mainly made of two types:
Important! Be sure to clean the contaminated finish in a dry form.
Important! If the wall turns yellow at the exit of the electrical wires, turn off the electricity before work.
Important! To protect the respiratory tract and mucous membranes from dust, wear a respirator and goggles.
Important! Apply the primer, preferably without going beyond the cleaned area.
Important! Before you cover the entire area of overlap, be sure to make a trial layer. To do this, cover a 5x5 cm area with the mixture. If, after drying, the putty dries evenly, there are no bubbles and cracks, feel free to cover the rest of the wall.
Water is very destructive to drywall. It can be said that the consequences of a humid environment on a floor made of this material are more serious than on other materials. Water destroys its structure in a very short time, and yellow spots form quite quickly. Therefore, the sooner you remove the yellow spots on the ceiling after flooding, the less of the finish will have to be replaced.
Important! In the process of dismantling the drywall floor, substitute a small container into which water will drain.
Important! Alternatively, you can tap the perimeter of the ceiling. A dull sound indicates damage to the sheet.
It is very difficult to say how much the stretch ceiling will suffer after flooding. Basically it depends on the material from which the canvas is made. For example:
Vinyl material is the only type of ceiling covering that will not be affected by flooding. Due to its composition and elasticity, water forms a large sag in the ceiling. The most correct decision in such a situation is to invite a specialist master. But if there is no time to wait, you can do the whole process yourself.
Important! To carry out work to save the ceiling, it is necessary to warm the room up to 40 degrees.
Floods and even minor leaks caused by an abundance of precipitation, a failure of the plumbing system or the negligence of neighbors from above are a serious test for the ceiling. Even the most modern coatings will not cope with moisture, reacting negatively even to a short contact. There are several ways to remove stains on the ceiling from leaks on your own without replacing the coating with new ones.
A simple method to get rid of leak stains on plasterboard or decorative plaster ceilings is with a spatula. The method does not require the use of special tools, it is considered fast enough, effective and safe to cover.
To remove stains, use a spatula, which delicately remove the top layer of the finish, trying not to damage the base. The treated area is additionally wiped with a sponge moistened with water and allowed to dry.
On the prepared surface, a deep penetration soil mixture is applied in several layers, also giving them time to dry. The next stage is finishing with putty, followed by leveling and grinding. The sanded area is re-primed, dried and painted with paint to match the color of the base coat. If the shades after finishing the restored area and the main ceiling are different, it makes sense to re-coat the entire ceiling with a new layer of paint. The maximum effect can be achieved if the ceiling is painted in two layers.
You can also use a special grinding tool that removes a layer of paint.
You can do it even easier if the stain is small. The area of contamination is washed out, primed and bleached in two layers.
After a serious flood and the ceiling is completely dry, deeply ingrained stains should be tried to be removed with chlorine-containing products. Their advantage lies primarily in accessibility and efficiency.
To prepare the remedy at home you will need:
Begin the procedure by cleaning the ceiling from the old layers of finish with a spatula. The treated area is cleaned with a sponge soaked in white, be sure to use rubber gloves. To enhance the effect, the sponge is applied to stains and stains for at least 5 seconds, after which the procedure is repeated. Sponges painted rusty are replaced with new ones.
According to this scheme, they act until the spots become barely noticeable. After that, the ceiling is given time to dry, the room is ventilated and the finishing work is completed.
You can replace whiteness or a toilet cleaner with chlorine with hydrochloric acid, heated to 40 degrees. Treat stains with a solution similar to chlorine.
When it is not possible to paint over stains on the ceiling with the previous methods due to the serious consequences of a large-scale accident in a multi-storey building, it is worth trying an effective remedy based on 10% copper sulphate. To prepare it you will need:
Just as in previous cases, areas requiring repair are cleaned of a layer of paint or plaster. The mixture prepared from the above ingredients is poured into a convenient container and stains are treated using a sponge or brush. As soon as the surface of the ceiling turns white again, it is primed, puttied and finished.
So that the spots do not show up again, a waterproof film is created on their surface even after treatment with vitriol.
In the case of stretch fabrics, the solution to the problem will be to call a specialist. The master will drain the water and clean the canvases, returning them to their original appearance.
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