Hello dear experts! My name is Marina and I have this problem. A year ago, we installed a new wooden staircase in the house. At first everything was fine, we were satisfied with the work of the master, as he fitted all the details well (well, at least it seemed so to us), but after about eight months, in the spring, the staircase began to creak unpleasantly. At first it was not very noticeable, but soon the sound became so strong that if someone walks up the stairs at night, the whole family wakes up. In general, the wooden staircase creaks, we don’t know what to do!
They called the master who did the installation, and in response they heard that he was not to blame, since the reason was that we bought low-quality wood. Naturally, he refused to correct, and we do not know if he is telling us the truth. Now I will formulate my questions.
- Why does a wooden staircase creak?
- What to do so that the wooden stairs do not creak?
- Is it possible to do the repair yourself?
Hello Marina! We hasten to inform you that the master was not completely frank with you, and, most likely, part of the blame lies with him. But let's talk about everything in order.
In fact, there is only one reason for the occurrence of squeaks in wooden structures - this is the diffusion of paints and varnishes. This chemical process proceeds to varying degrees of intensity in different paintwork materials.
The bottom line is that there are molecular bonds between the coatings of two parts, and when they break due to deformations of the stairs during walking, a creak is formed.
There are several reasons for the appearance of diffusion:
Judging by the story, it seemed that the squeaks arose after the end of the heating season. It is possible that heating devices are located next to the stairs, which accelerated the drying process of the wood.
It follows that the wood you purchased was indeed too wet. But any competent master had to warn the client about the possible consequences.
That is why, part of the blame remains on him. In addition, you still need to personally check all the connections that he adjusted, and only then present something to the person. Well, if you have no desire to sort things out, then use our advice and try to eliminate the causes of squeaks on your own.
We decided to combine the remaining answers into one chapter, since they are closely related to each other.
How to eliminate the creak of a wooden staircase? The answer to this question is ambiguous, since it largely depends on the type of structure. Unfortunately, Marina, you did not describe yours, so we will try to give a more detailed answer.
First of all, you need to determine in which places your staircase creaks. Most often, these are joints of treads and risers, treads and stringers and bowstrings, balusters and treads. To do this, you will need two people - one slowly walks up the stairs, and the second listens carefully from below (preferably under the stairs) and marks suspicious steps.
Now you need to partially disassemble these steps. First, let's talk about the repair of stairs, the steps of which are installed in bowstrings.
Here is a short guide:
Advice! In general, you need to work with silicone very carefully and quickly, as it will not allow you to disassemble the structure again. Try to use paraffin whenever possible, but it is not always convenient to apply it to surfaces.
To temporarily raise the parts, you can use small plastic or wood linings or a nail puller, which must be carefully pushed into the joint from the outside.
The squeaks should now be gone. If this does not happen, then try again to calculate the problem areas, since you could have made a mistake the first time.
Things are much more complicated with stairs that stand on stringers. The reason is that the balusters are installed directly on top of the treads, and there is no way to freely spread the joints in order to grease them well.
You will either have to completely dismantle the railing, or somehow contrive and drive a wedge under the tread. But keep in mind that you risk disrupting all normal connections, so we advise you not to be lazy and first completely disassemble the fence, at the same time updating all the joints of the balusters.
In the future, the procedure is very simple: we unscrew the screws or bolts, raise the riser, coat the joint with sealant and return everything to its place. We also hammer chopsticks with PVA glue into the holes for the screws.
Yes, completely forgot! Before assembling the ladder back, check the reliability of the fastening of the bowstrings, stringers and platform beams. If even the slightest backlash is found, we strengthen the fixation with corners, anchors and everything that is at hand. Do not forget to coat all joints of parts with paraffin or sealant.
If the reason lies in the bending of the floor under the stairs, then you will inevitably have to dismantle the entire structure and strengthen the base. In this case, we advise you not to save money and invite a truly competent master.
That's all for us, we hope that we were able to help understand the question of why wooden stairs creak, and how to deal with it. Watch the video in this article, where a professional ladder manufacturer with experience explains how and why such problems arise.
No matter how high-quality a wooden bed is, sooner or later it will begin to creak when moving, interfering with sleep and rest and simply unnerving. With all the preserved comfort of the bed, such a tangible minus as a creak will be the reason for the deterioration in the quality of sleep, and hence human health. At the same time, changing this bed to a new one is not the most cost-effective solution. In most cases, we are talking about repairing furniture and eliminating the auditory irritant that has appeared if the wooden bed creaks. How to fix this so that you can continue to use your favorite bed for many more years?
It is quite possible to get rid of the squeak without being a furniture specialist. However, if the wooden bed creaks, you can only solve the problem by first understanding why the furniture makes these unpleasant sounds.
Most likely, this is due to the natural process of drying out of natural material - wood. An equally common reason may be that the fasteners of the bed parts weaken over time.
But you should exclude the sound that may come from an old mattress, as in this case it turns out that it is not a wooden bed that creaks. What to do to understand if the mattress is to blame? You just need to take it off and put it on the floor, then lie down and move around. If there is no squeak, then you need to continue to study all parts of the bed: slats or boards under the mattress, all docking points without exception, as well as the frame and legs. As soon as the place or places of the defect are found, you can begin to act in accordance with what exactly causes the squeak.
The loosening of fasteners is the most common cause of an unpleasant sound, since all materials, without exception, tend to wear out, and over time, one part begins, fraying, to come into contact with another more tightly than was provided for by the design. In addition, from the movement and weight acting on the parts, the tightness of the fastening can also weaken. In such cases, it is sufficient to tighten all nuts and bolts.
But it happens that from time to time they are no longer able to withstand the load on their own, and the wooden bed creaks. What to do in such cases? You need to install additional fasteners. For example, special corners made of wood or metal, which should be screwed on the other side of the furniture. Instead of corners or in addition to them, you can strengthen all joints with wood glue.
By tightening, strengthening and letting the glue dry, you can check if the creak has disappeared. If it remains, you need to use one of the types of lubricant, which covers the joints of the bed to eliminate friction from all the wooden parts of the frame. You can use special silicone grease, grease, paraffin and even ordinary soap. These works must be carried out carefully and very carefully, since there is a high risk of damage to the upper protective and decorative layer of wood.
A very good proven way to eliminate bed squeaks is to use rubber glue to seal the holes that cause the bed to squeak. The adhesive remains flexible enough to hold the filled space securely. You need to use this method according to the following instructions:
After that, the creak should not remain. The only disadvantage of the described method is that the glue between the elements will not allow you to easily disassemble the bed again in the future.
The very slats on which the mattress is located are an equally popular reason why it happens that a wooden bed creaks. What to do in this case? You can only fix the problem by replacing old defective rails with new ones or by trying to swap old rails.
It happens that the cause of the creak lies in this defect - the most difficult task for home repairs. The legs, of course, can be replaced with others, but their installation can be quite difficult even for professionals. But you can simply remove the legs, for example, by sawing them down, without special skills and tools. In addition, instead of a boring classic bed, the result can be a new fashionable and original element of the interior - a platform for sleeping and relaxing, standing right on the floor.
A visual change of scenery, stability and elimination of creaking can thus be achieved simultaneously. Of course, this solution is not suitable for everyone, but you can still consider it. Who knows, maybe someone close will wake up the talent of a room designer, and the platform bed will become the most favorite piece of furniture in the house.
What to do for those who have not been helped by the above methods? You can get rid of a creak without resorting to drastic measures if you try to apply the following tricky solutions:
Thus, having discovered the cause of the creak and knowing what to do if the bed creaks, you can stop this annoying misunderstanding at no extra cost and use your favorite furniture for a long time to come.
Almost no building is complete without such a functional element as a staircase. It can be main or auxiliary, entrance, front or internal, mid-flight or screw - a huge variety of options, including the material of manufacture. Since ancient times, wooden stairs have gained great popularity. Their modern execution is so perfect that they are able to decorate with themselves almost any interior or exterior. In addition, wood is a natural, environmentally friendly material that can bring charm, warmth and comfort to the surrounding atmosphere. The article will discuss how to eliminate the creak of a wooden staircase.
Wood is an affordable, durable and reliable building material, whose positive qualities have been confirmed for centuries. And today, the oldest surviving staircase made of wood is more than 7 thousand years old.
Paying attention to the huge number of all kinds of stairs made of wood, it seems that only their main function and material of manufacture are common between them. But, even considering that they are made according to individual projects and have many unique design solutions, their design still consists of the same basic elements.
The supporting elements include two types of beams, which differ in the way steps are fixed on them. The choice of a particular type of construction depends on the personal preferences of the inhabitants of the house or apartment, as well as on the parameters of the room in which the installation of the stairs is planned, first of all, this concerns the interfloor height and the width of the opening into which the wooden product is installed.
The main element of the fence are considered railing that provide safe descent and ascent. The railing consists of several parts:
There can be several reasons why the stairs creak. Among the main ones, natural processes inherent in wood are distinguished.
Many of these reasons can be prevented even at the collection stage, but if it was not possible to do this in time and the stairs make unpleasant sounds when walking on it, then all necessary actions must be taken to eliminate the problems that have arisen.
Tip: one person goes down under the stairs and marks problem areas, while the second at this time goes up and down the stairs and loudly calls the numbers of those where the nasty sound occurs.
Tip: it is not recommended to glue a re-opened connection, they will no longer be fixed qualitatively and the squeak problem will return soon. Also, do not drive screws or bolts into existing holes or very close to them.
From long-term operation, almost all wooden stairs begin to creak, regardless of what kind of wood they are made of, what design they have, how many steps are on it and what shape of the railing. But if you approach the process of getting rid of an unpleasant sound wisely, then you can get rid of it quickly and, most importantly, for a long time. In addition, it will not be difficult to change the general appearance of an already aged staircase by restoring it.
Most, probably, the owners of houses or apartments where wooden floors are laid, faced the problem of creaking floorboards. This phenomenon can be caused by various reasons, and it can manifest itself in both old and new buildings. It seems to be a trifle - but it acts annoyingly. And for people with a particularly sensitive psyche, creaking can generally cause an unpleasant neurosis.
There are many ways to get rid of unpleasant, nerve-wracking sounds. It does not necessarily require a major overhaul. How to remove the creak of a wooden floor on your own, without resorting to the services of a master, will be discussed in this publication.
Before proceeding with the repair of a wooden floor, it is necessary to determine the cause of the appearance of unpleasant sounds. And they arise most often due to the friction of structural parts against each other:
So, in order not to make mistakes and not complicate the work, it is worth considering a step-by-step reconstruction of the floor. It should be noted right away that today there are quite a lot of tools that can greatly facilitate construction work. However, in this case, the master uses improvised devices to rally the boards, which everyone can make on their own.
Illustration Brief description of the operation to be performed The first step is to remove the boardwalk.
First you need to remove the skirting boards. If they are going to be reused, then they must be removed very carefully. It is best not to pull on the baseboard itself, but, having found the fixing nails, remove them with a nail puller.
To determine the location of the nails, the plinth must be carefully pry off the wall with a pry bar. When separating the lath, the nails will immediately reveal themselves.
It is even easier if the plinth is fixed with self-tapping screws - they are simply unscrewed with a screwdriver.Further, using the same mount, boards are removed from the lags.
If they are in good condition, and you plan to put them back, you need to try not to damage them. The boards also rise slightly from the lags, that is, the nails will also be pulled out a little along with them. When they become noticeable, they can be easily pulled out with a nail puller. Thus, the board will remain intact.
When removing the boards, it is recommended that they be numbered immediately, so that after repairing the lags, put them in place in the same sequence.
Cracked and rotten boards also need to be numbered, but put aside. This is in order to then make new ones on them and put them in place of those that have become unusable.When the boards are removed from the frame, it is necessary to thoroughly clean the base. Otherwise, it will be very difficult to determine the cause of the creak.
Next, a thorough revision of the base and lags is carried out.
If cracks are found in the concrete base, they are recommended to be expanded, cleaned, primed and sealed with a cement-sand mortar or a special repair putty. The following work can be done only after the repair mixture has solidified.
If, during the inspection, damaged logs are found, then they must be replaced, since, perhaps, it was because of them that the floors creaked.
If the lags are too large, then it is best to add additional elements to the frame. The step between the lags should be no more than 600 mm. When installing them, 80 ÷ 100 mm should be retreated from the wall.Old logs or new ones, in any case, they must be leveled in one plane. To align them, you will need a long, about 1.5 ÷ 2 m building level, or a shorter one and a rule. Logs are checked for evenness of installation, both in width and length of the room.
If necessary, they can be lifted using rigid spacers of the required thickness or special adjustable anchors.
After the logs are set in one plane, they must be rigidly fixed to the base. To do this, holes are drilled in the logs and gaskets, as well as the concrete base, through which anchor or dowel fasteners are screwed or driven in.If you had to make a complete reconstruction of the floor, then it makes sense to insulate and soundproof the structure.
To do this, a waterproofing material is laid on the floor surface and fixed on the logs.A heater is laid on top of the insulating membrane - it can be mineral wool, foam plastic, slag or expanded clay.
By the way, expanded clay will be the best option for a private house, since rodents do not live in it. It is especially good to use fine fraction expanded clay.
From above, the insulation is closed with a vapor-permeable membrane, which will allow moisture to leave the insulation and prevent villi from mineral wool or dust from other insulation materials from entering the premises.
All film coatings are fixed on the logs with staples and a stapler.Now you can move on to returning the old boards to their place, and replacing some of them with new ones.
Boards must be mounted so that there is a minimum distance between them.
Installation begins with board number one. It is laid perpendicular to the lags and well leveled, as they will set the direction for all other floor boards.
Between the first board (both along its length and from the ends) and the wall there should be a technological gap of 8 ÷ 10 mm. This distance will help keep the coating intact during the thermal expansion of the material.If the fastening of the board to the joists will be carried out with nails, then it is recommended to hammer them at an angle to the surface of the board, so the fixation will be more reliable.
Self-tapping screws are screwed vertically. For arranging floor boards, you should choose self-tapping screws that have threads that do not reach their caps. They will more reliably hold structural elements together.In order not to split the board when screwing in the screws, it is recommended to drill holes for them in advance with a thin drill.
The upper part of the hole must be expanded (countersinked) so that the screw head is flush or 1÷2 mm below the main surface.
The board is screwed with two or three self-tapping screws to each of the lags.The second and subsequent boards, before fixing them, must be pulled together.
In this case, the master applied the technique of compacting the flooring with a spacer wedge. A wedge can be made independently from a bar by sawing it at an angle.
In addition to it, you will need a piece of board (thick plywood) against which the wedge will rest.
This stop is screwed to the log at a distance of 20 ÷ 25 mm from the laid board with four self-tapping screws.Further, a wedge is inserted between the fixed stop and the board.
A bar is attached to its wide side, which is hit with a hammer. The beam is necessary in order not to hammer the wood of the wedge, as it will be needed to compact all the floorboards.
The wedge, when it is tamped, will move forward, acclimating the last board to the previous one. When they are maximally interconnected, the last board is fixed to the lags with self-tapping screws.
In the same way, the rallying of all floorboards occurs.If the last floorboard does not enter the space between the penultimate board and the wall, it must be marked and sawed off the excess part along its entire length.
The marking of the board should be carried out at the place of its installation, taking into account the fact that a technological gap should form between it and the wall.It is desirable to cut the cut at an angle so that the lower surface of the board is 8 ÷ 10 mm less than the upper plane.
Thus, a ventilated space will be created between the wall and the board.Having laid the last board in place, it must also be pulled to the main cover. This process is carried out using a pulling bracket and a hammer. After the minimum gap remains between the boards, the last floorboard must be immediately fixed to the logs with self-tapping screws.
Now you can check the floors for creaking. To do this, it is necessary to walk on it and press on the surface with your feet, making an effort, especially in previously problematic areas.
If the installation is done correctly, then there should be no creaking.After all the boards are returned to their place, it is recommended to sand the floors. This process is especially relevant in the case when a thick layer of paint has accumulated on the floorboards during the period of operation, which gives the surface a sloppy look.
Grinding, or rather, scraping, is best done using a special machine. This device can be rented for a while, or you can invite a master to work with his equipment.
It is advisable to clean the surface of the floor from paint completely, to bare wood.Further, the floors must be treated with an antiseptic primer, which will protect the material from biological damage and create good adhesion for the coloring layer.
Even if you plan to lay plywood or OSB on the boards, the primer will still not be superfluous.The installation of the plinth is carried out after the plywood flooring and decorative coating or before painting the wooden floor.
How to properly perform this stage of work is described in detail in a special publication of our portal.* * * * * * *
Now, knowing the options for eliminating unpleasant squeaky sounds that occur when moving on the floor, you can start checking the boardwalk. Then, having determined the cause of their occurrence, you can safely proceed to repair work, choosing the most appropriate method.
It should also be noted that the complete reconstruction of a wooden floor is a long and laborious process. And especially in those cases when you don’t know what to expect after dismantling the boards. Therefore, if the owners decide to make a major overhaul, then you should correctly assess your experience in this area of work, weigh your capabilities. Perhaps it would be wiser to entrust this task to professionals who will deal with such a problem much faster and more competently.
In conclusion, we suggest watching a short video in which a home craftsman shares his quick and effective method of getting rid of squeaking floors.
Video: How to eliminate the creak of a wooden floor yourself
For a home master who does not have a building education and experience, information becomes relevant why a wooden floor creaks, usually after several years of operation. The reason is the lack of a stable geometry of the structure, the loosening of its individual elements, leading to a decrease in strength.
The design of a wooden floor (rough or floor covering) is completely maintainable, so you can get rid of the creak in any case, but using various technologies.
Before you remove the creak of a wooden floor in an apartment or house on your own, you need to understand the causes of sounds. A creak occurs due to the friction of individual structural elements with each other:
Finally, logs or beams can rot in separate areas, part of the boardwalk attached to them touches adjacent boards attached to sections of the bar that has retained the spatial geometry.
Important! If the floor creaks due to the boards bending underfoot (they touch each other), then a major overhaul (dismantling) of the boardwalk will be required. You will either have to reduce the step of the lag, or increase the thickness of the board.
There are several ways to get rid of a squeak, depending on the purpose of the floor (groove board finish or subfloor edged board), its design and the hardware used (nail or self-tapping screw).
To get rid of the creak of a wooden floor on your own, you need to restore its design according to the technology:
Advice! The most difficult option is the dismantling of the flooring and its re-laying after the revision of the lumber. In order not to open the floors completely to provide access to rotten bars, holes and hatches can be cut down.
In other words, all methods of getting rid of floorboard creaks come down to additional fixation of wooden elements to each other with self-tapping screws, pins or wedging. More rarely, the internal cavity is foamed to provide a large supporting surface, or sheet materials are laid on top of the plank flooring, distributing point loads evenly over its entire area.
If the home master does not know what to do to eliminate the creak, the method of additional fixation of the boards to the lags is most often intuitively applied. Such a scheme is suitable only for fully preserved logs with normal support on the base. If the logs hang on the boards (the wedges flew out, the lumber dried up) or partially rotted, this technology will not bring results.
In addition, when fixing the flooring elements, the features of the hardware should be taken into account:
Therefore, there are three ways to fix the boardwalk elements with self-tapping screws:
Important! The last two methods are less reliable than the first, so they are used in emergency cases.
It is impossible to drown the screw heads into hardwoods; it is necessary to make a "sink" with a countersink. To do this, you can use a similar self-tapping screw, cutting off the head with a hand engraver (1.5 - 2 cm in length) and making inclined notches like a milling cutter with the same tool.
The floorboards are laid close to each other, have a thickness of 2 - 5 cm. Therefore, by compressing the dried material with each other in separate areas, it is possible to increase the rigidity of the horizontal structure and eliminate creaking at no additional cost. There are two methods for this:
Important! In both cases, existing nails or self-tapping screws must be removed from the boards prior to screeding to allow the deck members to move horizontally.
If the defective area is far from the wall, it is difficult to pull off the wooden floors in the previous way. Therefore, the floorboards are wedged in place according to the technology:
As a result, the boards are tightly pressed against each other, the point applied loads are distributed over a large surface, the lamellas stop “walking”, the sounds disappear.
With a sufficiently strong foundation on which the logs are laid, experts recommend the following way to eliminate creaking in the boardwalk:
The technique is suitable for emergency cases, but does not have high reliability for a number of reasons:
Important! Unlike home insulation, it is better to use household mounting foam in the floors. Its density is higher, and the thermal insulation characteristics in this case do not matter.
The injection method is more reliable when, instead of mounting foam, the cavity is filled with an adhesive composition that hardens in air (epoxy and polymer resins).
But this method is suitable for filling small cavities, since epoxy is quite expensive.
Another, but with many limitations, way to eliminate the creak of a wooden floor inside a dwelling is sheet material flooring:
The main disadvantages of the technology are:
Therefore, plywood flooring is rarely used to eliminate boardwalk creaking.
The grooved board is joined along the length in adjacent rows by locking joints. The edged board does not have a tongue and groove, so its geometry is more susceptible to changes with changes in humidity. Therefore, information is useful for the home master on how to make a dowel connection to correct the indicated defect:
Important! The quality of the joint depends on the immobility of the boards relative to each other at the time of drilling.
With significant physical wear, it is necessary to replace all the lumber so that the logs and boards do not creak:
This is the most expensive option, you will need to take out all the furniture from the room and dismantle the trim.
It is possible to avoid the occurrence of unpleasant sounds from the friction of wood against wood or metal at the stage of installing the boardwalk. To do this, it is enough to lay absorbent material on top of the log and apply the adjustable floor technology.
The home master will not have to disassemble the boardwalk if the logs are cut off from the edged / tongue-and-groove board:
At the same time, the acoustics of the ceiling will be further improved, and protection against getting wet will be provided.
Without experience, it is very difficult to figure out why a tongue-and-groove flooring board or subfloor flooring turned out to be creaky. Therefore, manufacturers produce an adjustable floor system, in which the likelihood of third-party sounds is reduced:
Lumber absorbs moisture less, natural ventilation is provided, there is no rigid fixation of wood to concrete. Even if boards that are incorrectly fixed to the joists begin to creak, it is much easier to repair defective areas, since you do not need to open the entire floor.
Thus, the characteristic creak of the boardwalk can be eliminated with your own hands by additionally screwing in self-tapping screws, foaming the internal space under it, wedging, or other indicated methods.
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